" tonight, mark glaze is the director of the group mayors against illegal guns. steve doolan of the michigan coalition for responsible gun owners. he's having technical problems, we'll bring up his shot in just a moment. mark, you heard from the nra a real focus not so much even on guns, really talking about mental illness, they talked about tracking people who are mentally ill, they talked about pretty much everything, you know, not about taking away guns, but adding more guns. what did you make of their news conference today? >> you know, as somebody who's watched the organization for a while, my dad was a licensed gun dealer in colorado, i know a lot of nra members, it was a really surprising performance. the nra is usually quite smart. then again, they've never been under pressure like this. it struck me as incoherent and bordering on detached from reality. talking about things lapierre gets paid a lot of money to talk about on a regular basis. it was not the time to say things even nra members don't believe. nra members are not the washington leadership. they're two very different thing